Beiträge von rui.saraiva

There's a "RCC_EU_W3" ecuType, but all RCC Wave 3 that I found were "RCC_EU_W3_ECO". They both use the same firmware.

The "A1" or "A2" doesn't relate to Wave levels, but with hardware capabilities, specifically "Mirror Screen" support, PSA marketing name for the Apple CarPlay, Google Android Auto and MirrorLink - the A1 versions doesn't have that support. There are "RCC A1 Wave 2" and "RCC A2 Wave 2" variants and almost all RCC Wave 3 are A2 (but I did found some A1 variants). BTW I never came across a RCC Wave 1 and I think they don't really exist.

You can see the Wave level on the V850 Version ("Wx.x"), and the hardware capabilities on the (last) letter of the firmware version - for instance the "D" on the "049D" from one of the attached post images:

- "A": A1, without Mirror Screen and only AM/FM radio;

- "B": A1, without Mirror Screen but with DAB support;

- "C": A2, with Mirror Screen;

- "D": A2, with Mirror Screen and DAB support.

So for Mirror Screen support you need a A2 (last firmware letter a "C" or "D"), either a RCC Wave 2 or Wave 3.

It seems you had a RCC Wave 3 A1 and replaced that by a RCC Wave 2 A2 with a very old firmware (049). You cannot use your VIN to download the license key, you need to use directly the serial number of the new infotainment system.

The AdBlue consuption depends on the driving style (more fuel, more NOx produced, more AdBlue needed) and also on the engine. For instance the newer EURO 6d-TEMP emission standard requires fewer emissions of NOx than the older EURO 6, and so it needs 2 to 3x more AdBlue.

The AdBlue tank has 17 litres, but you should only fill up to 10 litres, and only when you see the notification. There's a float level measurement inside the tank.

Don't think that's a RCE system, that is only 5" monochrome display. The RCE also doesn't support wireless Android Auto or CarPlay.

In fact that seems a basic IVI system, the i-Connect, without integrated satnav. It has the same UI diagonal line of the version with satnav, i-Connect Advanced.

The "danger zones"/speedcam is a paid subscription service. For your country, see here: https://services-store.citroen.at/

The screen with the info about that service is always empty, even when you have it active and available.

edu_chirimoya New firmware version for RCC Wave 3: 5_096_20.0H022.23, UpdateID / MediaVersion: 005315191651233765, 8 248 156 160 bytes:

{
  "updateType": "rcc-firmware",
  "updateVersion": "5_096_20.0H022.23",
  "updateProvider": "BOSCH_CAR_MULTIMEDIA",
  "updateId": "005315191651233765",
  "updateDate": "2022/06/07 14:28:49",
  "updateStatus": {
    "code": "PUB",
    "label": "Publié"
  }
}

On mine, the S&S also doesn't work if I have the rotation angle of the steering wheel over ~60º.

Those are usually sold by DPCA - Dongfeng Peugeot-Citroën - http://www.dpca.com.cn/ and their VIN start with "LDC" (or "LPA" for the old CAPSA - Changan PSA Automobiles/DS Automobiles). Peugeot Latin America also have their own VIN ("8AD" - Argentina and "8GD" - Chile).

My guess is East Europe.

EDIT:

Found a reference to the RCE system in this Peugeot Finland document: https://media.peugeot.fi/file/…q-private-mode.787958.pdf

And in the Finnish owner's manual (they call it "bluetooth touchscreen audio system" - there's also the "Connect Radio" (RCC) and "Connect Nav" (NAC)), pages 28 and 188-197: https://public.servicebox.peug…s/9999_9999_401_fi-FI.pdf

I did find this infotainment system used in several Peugeot 208 (P21E) built 22-24 December last year (OPR 16480-16482), using the old 1.6 HDi 110/115 engine and 5 speed manual gearbox - VIN start with "VR3UB9HPANxxxxxxx", so N=MY2022. Not sure in which country they're sold or built (plant code = KE).

In the FCC documentation (user manual), it's implied that they're also used in some Citroën models.

It's a simple monochrome radio with a small 5" display and 4 subversions (A1, B1, A2 and B2):

- The Ax subversions (A1 and A2) doesn't have climatization settings (car has dedicated buttons for that);

- The Bx subversions (B1 and B2) does have climatization settings on screen;

- The x1 subversions (A1 and B1) only have AM and FM radio frequency support;

- The x2 subversions (A2 and B2) also have DAB support.

	A1	A2	B1	B2
On-screen climatization settings
DAB support

So this model isn't related to the IVI, that has 2 subversions (in Peugeot, they're called "i-Connect" and "i-Connect Advanced").

Mittns: Yes, I did find 2 firmware versions in the same server:

https://majestic-web.mpsa.com/…ce-eu_1-1-5_RCE_EU_W1.tar

https://majestic-web.mpsa.com/…ce-eu_1-3-4_RCE_EU_W1.tar

And the Majestic's API can also handle queries about this systems. It doesn't handle IVI systems though.

Hello,

Do you know anything about the "RCE_EU_W1" ecuType?

Recently I came across this infotainment system, used in a 2022 Peugeot 208 (P21E):

{
  "updateType": "firmware-rce-eu",
  "updateVersion": "1.3.4",
  "updateProvider": "HANGSHENG",
  "updateId": "062321851619162076",
  "updateDate": "2022/01/07 14:22:42",
  "updateStatus": {
    "code": "PUB",
    "label": "Publié"
  }
}

Probably related with this FCC documentation: https://fccid.io/Y9TT0424

Do you have the speedcams service active?

That might be a "red light camera" - https://download.tomtom.com/op…/Speedcameratypes-VIO.htm without that generic pictogram.

I only have extracted the files from a NAC Wave 2 firmware and didn't find that image, but you should have a NAC Wave 3 or 4 with other images. About the red light camera that on the Autobahn - anyone could declare a "danger zone" (red triangle with a exclamation point) and set its type, one of them is this speed cam.

I remember in the late 90s, when the ISDN was a thing, the meaning of the acronym: It Still Does Nothing.

Well, it seems that the firmware 44.02.16.52_NAC-r0 for NAC Wave 4 is available again:

{
  "updateType": "ovip-int-firmware-version",
  "updateVersion": "44.02.16.52_NAC-r0",
  "updateProvider": "CONTINENTAL",
  "updateId": "001315031650642080",
  "updateDate": "2022/04/27 13:53:29",
  "updateStatus": {
    "code": "PUB",
    "label": "Publié"
  }
}

And the update is again available at https://majestic-web.mpsa.com/…_NAC-r0_NAC_EUR_WAVE4.tar

Exactly the same updateId and file size.

Zitat von arfe

AVP?? What does it mean?

AFAIK, there are this updateStatus:

Code / Label

PUB = Publié

AVP = En attente de validation PSA

AVC = En attente de validation fournisseur

APT = En cours de publication TomTom

DEL = Supprime du serveur

ERR = Erreur

Zitat von arfe

But this is speculative without naming the error. You should wait and see.

Maybe. But they removed the file from the PSA server (AFAIK only for the 3rd time since 2017) *and*, most importantly, they also changed the "updateStatus" from the Majestic's API query:

{
  "updateType": "ovip-int-firmware-version",
  "updateVersion": "44.02.16.52_NAC-r0",
  "updateProvider": "CONTINENTAL",
  "updateId": "001315031650642080",
  "updateDate": "2022/04/27 13:53:29",
  "updateStatus": {
    "code": "AVP",
    "label": "Waiting for PSA validation"
  }
}

There's also a "DEL" code (deleted), but I only saw that only once. They usually do that AVP thing.

The latest firmware version for NAC Wave 4, 44.02.16.52_NAC-r0 was also withdrawn. This and the previous 44.02.13.12-r0 were removed from PSA servers and they have updated the status code to AVP:

{
  "updateType": "ovip-int-firmware-version",
  "updateVersion": "44.02.16.52_NAC-r0",
  "updateProvider": "CONTINENTAL",
  "updateId": "001315031650642080",
  "updateDate": "2022/04/27 13:53:29",
  "updateStatus": {
    "code": "AVP",
    "label": "En attente de validation PSA"
  }
}

Oh sorry, I did a search for model codes, but didn't see they were in the titles.

As it is repeated information, please delete all this thread.

Usually the model code is one letter followed by one or two digits. This second digit might be to identify the car body type:

0 = 3 doors

1 = 5 doors

2 = SW/Station Wagon

3 = 4 doors

4 = Crossover/SUV

5 = Coupe

6 = CC/Cabrio Coupe

7 = Cabrio

8 = Monospace

9 = Utility

For instance, the Peugeot 508 II (R8) might be the saloon version (R83) or the station wagon version (R82).

Recent models code:

S3 = iOn

S1/S2 = 106

B0 = 107
B3 = 108

A0 (A08) = 1007

M24 = 205

T1 = 206

T3 = 206+

A7 = 207

A9 = 208
P21 = 208 II

A94 = 2008
P24 = 2008 II

M33 = 301

C28 = 309

N3/N5 = 306

T5/T6 = 307

T7 = 308

T75 = RCZ (308 Coupe)

T9 = 308 II

P5 = 308 III

T84 = 3008

P84 = 3008 II

D6/D7 = 405

D8/D9 = 406

D2 = 407

T73/T93 = 408 (3-box 308, Asian market)

I3 = 4007

J3 = 4008

W2 = 508

R8 = 508 II

T87 = 5008

P87 = 5008 II

Z6/Z7 = 605

Z8/Z9 = 607

U60 = 806

V2 = 807

MCVU/MCVF = Bipper/Tepee

X2/U5/U9 = Boxer

M49-59/B9 = Partner

U64/U65 = Expert I

G9/K0 = Expert II

The difference between the possibility of downgrades in firmware and maps is this:

In SWL\00131*\Firmware\FirmwareList.ini (from system/firmware update):

[OrderingScript]
Commands = \
ALLOW_SAMEGRADES \

In SWL\00231*\Data\DataList.ini (from maps/cartography update):

[OrderingScript]
Commands = \
ALLOW_SAMEGRADES \
ALLOW_DOWNGRADES \

I never tested this, but it's possible to install a decrypted firmware (I did that when PSA released an old 21.05.65.32_NAC-r0 without being crypted - and the update was way faster too) and the key do decrypt the "old" 42.03 .33.42_NAC-r0 is available at https://github.com/ludwig-v/ps…/WAVE4/42.03.33-42-r0.key

So you probably just have to:

- Decrypt the old 42.03.33.42_NAC-r0 firmware

- Append the "ALLOW_DOWNGRADES" to the FirmwareList.ini

- Calculate the new SHA256 hash of the FirmwareList.ini file to change the value in HashList.ini

- Calculate the new SHA256 hash of the HashList.ini file to update the value in MediaHeader\MediaVersion.ini

- Remove the encapsulated digital signature from this last file.