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Zitat von rodig03

After a Renault Mégane plug-in hybrid that was plugged into the normal socket every night and ran 90% electrically (except to Spain...), I now have one

Bought the Peugeot 5008 hybrid (i.e. mild hybrid) - before the presentation of the modernized version E-5008, which should only have 2 ISOFIX mounts in row 2.

Why?

You have the quiet and powerful electric motor - every braking is (at least partially) stored as energy in the battery instead of generating brake dust and heat, and in city traffic you are definitely more environmentally friendly, especially there it is efficient, as it already is Toyota showed this with the Prius decades ago, even without funding.

Now that the state funding has stopped, people can no longer say that I did it because of the funding

A hybrid is particularly worthwhile for family cars with primarily local destinations - not only financially, but also because of its lower noise and exhaust emissions.

And also purely emotionally from the "electric" more responsive driving experience.

Sure - there are a lot of pros and cons for every drive concept, but at least for me I can say that a mild hybrid can also be something useful because of the efficiency advantages.

Not for the representative with 60k km/a, but for the one with 15k km/a...

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I think you make a confusion between hybrid types.

- mild hybrid car has a very small battery, usually 48V and a small motor named starter. You can't run on that battery, it offers smooth start of engine (due to that starter) and in some conditions, turn the engine off when coasting. If you compare same car with same engine conventional and mild-hybrid you will see there is no significant fuel economy.

- full hybrid (like Toyota) has a bigger battery, you can run electrically on that battery (1-3km) only if you drive very smoothly. The battery is charged when thermic engine is running and from brake regeneration.

- plug-in hybrid (like Peugeot 408 plug-in); it is basically a 2in1 car. You can charge your car like an electrical one and you can run 40-60km electrically. When you run out of battery or you need extra power thermic engine will turn on to supply with power and charge the battery. You have a heavier car because of battery weight and a more complex car. It is very efficient if you can fit into that range but become very inefficient when you need to run on thermic engine to charge the battery.

In some countries you could have some benefits (free parking or lower taxes) if you own a hybrid car, regardless what type of hybrid.

I drove my Ford Focus 2 1.6 tdci 90HP from 2006, 220k km (I doubt they were real), until the mechanic became my best friend. :)) I visited him almost every month with different problems, not so expensive but start become annoying after a while. Because I was obsessed to keep all the problems under control, the next owner was very happy to buy a well maintained car.

The only thing I regret from the old car is the consumption. I had usually only 4.5l/100km in external, best consumption was 4.2l/100km on 600km road.

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I still doubt that a hybrid has any real environmental benefit.

For me mild hybrid cars have no sense. You have a normal car and add hybrid complexity and higher price without any significant benefit.